Biochem is already a double major (basically). EDIT: Thanks for all the help!!! Yea I'm leaning towards windsor bc its cheaper and the EE program here cant be terrible. As a consequence, it may be harder to find a job. Normally you have to transfer to TRON after 1B mech (since then you have your circuits and programming marks) and you need a high GPA, around 90% average (which is probably going to get harder considering that they probably over admitted some TRONS so competition is tough, and also the fact that grades will be inflated due to online school). Better for post-grad employment within the US and Canada. My college has a transfer partner with University of Toronto but I'm not sure about Waterloo. I would like you guys to share your thoughts and opinions regarding Tron in general and such aspects as workload, difficulty, co-op placements in particular. Any mechatronics students that have done an academic exchange in another country for their 3B term? If so: Where did you go? Were you able to do all the 3B courses at that school? How easy was it compared to waterloo. Anyways, it’s an awesome program and you’re guaranteed your option so I would take it. You need a 90+ average minimum. I am currently figuring out if I want to apply (list as my first choice) to computer engineering or mechatronics engineering. Gives you exposure to content traditionally found in both electrical and mechanical engineering. i've had a pretty mediocre experience w/ co-op but people seem to be either doing the software meme (yelp/google/etc) or doing more integration-engineering-y stuff. Waterloo Engineering is typically not fond of summer school and they may add a penalty to your average. I prepared a wall of text but Tl;Dr is : I graduated a year ago and i worked as a Mold Designer, Android Developer and Control Engineer. We have a pretty wide spread of students - some love coding, others love electrical, and some like mechanical. Linear algebra: Linear Algebra for Engineers and Scientists, by Hardy (*I think*) Programming: Starting out with C++, by Gaddis, 9e (but 8e will do) Concepts: There is a course-notes package for the concepts Mechatronics is the closest thing to general engineering that Waterloo has. Otherwise the best schools, as usual, and take appropriate classes. I was wondering when I’ll get an offer from Waterloo, Mac and western and if I’ll be considered a sitting applicant to receive an early offer. At the end of the day, you’ll succeed at either school if you put in the work, but see if Business Intelligence is the process of utilizing organizational data, technology, analytics, and the knowledge of subject matter experts to create data-driven decisions via dashboards, reports, alerts, and ad-hoc analysis. I have a decent average but my schools adjustment got really bad this year which knocked my average down to a 95. Maybe consider BME :) You can take Mechatronics with a life science option, which is like a minor but with fewer courses. Hey y'all, I just had a few questions about the university and the mechatronics engineering program. For a bit of background, I have been interested in computer engineering for a while, both the software and hardware aspects. So instead of ranking, my friend and I looked at results. Waterloo Mechatronics Jobs After Graduation. I applied to mechatronics engineering at Waterloo with a 95 average as for my first semester which had advanced functions, chemistry and physics. Source: 4 years industrial automation experience, $50k of HECS regret. Tron will always be at a disadvantage for Mech/ECE/SE jobs and there are very few true robotics/Tron jobs, especially for coop. Here are my pros and cons list for each Waterloo Pros: Better program reputation Better co-op 6 co-op terms give you the chance to explore different career paths. Calgary is way cheaper (tuition and living), the city of Calgary is way nicer than Waterloo (although Toronto is an hour away), and the gear degrees are the same (although Waterloo requires you to start working sooner). I'm still waiting for UOFT (dont plan on going there anyway). If you have any more questions, feel free to DM me! hello, i've applied to nanoeng 2021 at waterloo because i love chem, math, bio and labs. Worldly-Ad3447. I think at most two courses outside of ECE can count, but this was in the old curriculum. You can’t major in mechatronics at uoft. An applied science degree in mechanical or mechatronics engineering provides several versatile career paths. On the other hand, CS is more recognizable and has better "brand appeal", especially in a university renowned for its presence in the tech industry. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The support structures for students is better (excepting co-op). Queen's and Western engineering = decent. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Members Online Bringing up illegal housing disputes to WUSA general meeting on March. Non-technical or "complementary studies" elective courses (CSEs) are distributed throughout the program to give academic breadth; however, elective courses are not included every term. So I have recently received a conditional offer to Mechatronics Engineering program. I'm not so sure about their education, but from my personal experience, knowing both alumni in mechanical@uoft & tron@waterloo, waterloo is more of a target school. I have excellent ecs (or so I think), such as founding and running a coding club, school prefect (student council), robotics team, varsity basketball, attending the SHAD program, completing online college CS course, coaching Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Members Online My stats prof just said "We know what sigma (σ) is, we know what mew (μ) is" and I laughed NegotiationAncient77. Mechatronics is supposed to be more well-rounded and geared towards robotics, automation, etc. I’m a first year in UW Eng, and these stats are accurate for 2023, 2024 should be similar. I'm an international applicant. It's genius!' . I really like Waterloo's Mechatronics program, so I was wondering if people in the program/alumni could give some advice on my chances of getting in. It’s a strong engineering school so it might be good to consider. Mechatronics Engineering. Most mechanical AND electrical projects (product design) require knowledge of both disciplines, so if you can speak both languages, you're ahead of the game. but then i know people that say there's nothing in waterloo and wish they went elsewhere. Also keep in mind that that 80-85% is 1% for a reason. Can someone tell me about mechatronics? I'm not in grade twelve, I'm just halfway through this program and still don't know what it is. I have personally forgot all the linear algebra from 1st year so I had to relearn it this year. You will almost definitely have the highest chance of getting into electrical engineering. I was wondering if I have access to a greater range of jobs through the Mechatronics program, including those that are available through the CS programs. i would still love to learn about mechatronics and expand my job opportunities to get involved with mechatronics. There isn't a set hierarchy. I would claim the opposite is true. Since graduating from their programs, our mechanical and mechatronics engineering alumni have found rewarding careers that enable them to use their skills and knowledge to make our world a better place. I find waterloo's co-op program far superior to UofT's internship program. I think that is the joke. i havent accepted my offer yet, but how would emailing / contact someone from waterloo help me get into mechatronics? The first three years of the Mechatronics Engineering program consist primarily of "core" courses that must be taken by all students. Hi I just wanted to know how competitive the mechatronics program is at Waterloo as I’ve been reading and I keep seeing that it’s been getting increasingly more difficult this year. Award. First year is relatively easy because tron has programming instead of physics in 1A, then we have statics in 1B instead of the dynamics that everyone else had in 1A. Tron at Waterloo is definitely easier than UofT EngSci, meaning you have more time for hobbies, clubs, projects, friends, etc. I find it crazy but if u think it’s better for u then go for it. 2 which is pretty bad I think. I am a mechatronics student at the University of Waterloo. It's harder than say cs or ece. 92K subscribers in the uwaterloo community. I got accepted into mechatronics at UW and I got free choice at Mac. 27 Waterloo isn't even half as old as UBC plus admits way more engineers than waterloo, so all the ranking is bullshit. I feel like queens is a better fit for me in terms of community and social life. A large portion of the cohort will likely end up working in software engineering jobs (A common theme with all engineering programs at Waterloo). My worry with CS is two-fold, particularly in terms of job security and personal interests. So choose wisely. Done all software engineering & data science salaries ranged from $23/hr to $160/hr (that includes housing and bonus and all) I’m in my grade 12 year, in New Brunswick and I was curious about the engineering programs in the universities above. Also, in ECE you have technical electives in which you can take courses outside of ECE to count towards your technical electives. It is paired with and bears similarities to the mechanical engineering program here, with greater focus on programming and signal processing. Ask yourself if you see yourself in a similar position! Also Waterloo SYDE has incredible ppl in it I’ve heard, very outgoing and smart, so there’s that! Waterloo Mechatronics engineering (stats pls) For those of you who got an offer for tron, what were ur stats? Im just tryna see if I actually have a shot, rn im at 94-95 average with decent EC's and a mid interview. Posted by u/engineerofthe-future - 4 votes and 10 comments Specializations and Options. For school, my marks have pretty much been consistent at around a 94 avg but math/sci courses are like >95. (OK, not So I am in grade 12 now and I am sure about taking engineering for my undergraduate degree. Right now i try to automate the work force at an Aluminum Radiator factory. I'm not entirely sure which program to pick, so I need some advice. 'When your sleepy you just crawl in one end. There’s always BME, but it only has 2 core bio courses. S. According to the CEO of Y-Combinator (Multibillion dollar company) (graduate of Stanford), he said that as of 2014, Waterloo performed better than stanford! View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit Help me Choose!!!!!!!!!! Hey guys, I am a grade 12 student and have been accepted to both Queen's Mechatronics and Waterloo Mechanical Eng with coop. In the final year, five From the admission average acceptance probability chart, you're looking at a 40% chance for an offer - before the AIF is considered (IIRC, someone correct me if that's wrong). 88%, not sure if it gets rounded up or down. Tbh if ur headset on computer/mechatronics I would take a gap year and reapply. It's one of the most fun, has high energy students, they do really cool projects, and develop a lot of great skills. As long as you get at least 2/5 on the AIF, you're looking at an 80% instead, so they're pretty decent. The average was around 96%, same with computer engineering. Look into a minor. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment People with Waterloo engineering degrees can get great jobs. The Mechatronics Engineering (MTE) program at the University of Waterloo consists of nearly 200 students each year. Mechatronics Eng at Waterloo or Eng 1 with free choice at McMaster? Admissions So waterloo finally got back today after waiting for months (and with 20 days left to decide 👌) and so I was wondering what you guys thought, since I also got accepted to engineering 1 with free choice at mcmaster. People with uOttawa and Carleton engineering degree can only get shitty jobs or no jobs at all. After that, McMaster then Western. If you find out that you like some particular field you can work towards it. I have applied to specifically System Designs Engineering, Computing and Financial Management, and CS/BBA. i want to do experience both, but mechanical is main. The most popular Options among MME students are: Mechatronics , Management Sciences , Software , Artificial Intelligence, Computing and Biomechanics . Megathread. Totally agree, Waterloo for tron if you have the option. That being said…. So I applied to engineering at UBC and mechatronics at Waterloo. Advanced Functions (taken 3 times) recent attempt in private school- 97% - midterm. Think it’s worth saying that queens mechatronics isn’t accredited yet (they’re only on their second year). Jack of all trades, master of none. Otherwise the other 3 tron programs are all pretty similar. Reply. Ranking UW's most competitive ENG programs: SE > BME > CE = SDYE = TRON > MECH > EE. But be aware cuz admissions may be more competitive next year due to highschool grade inflation. In the fourth year (4A and 4B) of the undergraduate program, each mechatronics engineering student must select a set of 5 technical elective courses. Mechanical engineers go into more depth in their physics courses and mechanical things at the expense of programming, while Mechatronics engineers give up some physics and mechanical courses for programming. Hi Everyone, Just been wondering about job opportunities after graduation from Waterloo Tron. This entirely depends on who you are and what your interests are. All students are required to write and submit 3 satisfactory work reports. There are CS jobs the world over, but it is less common The "mechatronics was a mistake" thing is half a meme because people love to complain, and half a reality of people who are 3 co-op terms into software engineering and now all their courses are virtually useless to their field (because it's mostly mechanical, some electrical), and you basically don't get to take electives until 4th year. Source: Elec Eng undergrad, Mech Eng grad student. Waterloo Mechatronics Engineering vs McMaster Free Choice Engineering. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community I did all software lol. There are 13 designated Options described in the UW Calendar . Mech touches on thermo, heat transfer, fluid mechanics, machine design, manufacturing, materials sciences, electric and motor theory, control systems, mechanics of deformable solids, dynamics and a whole buttload of math and physics. Many other good engineering schools in Canada. my friend is at mac and has no life, i had a ton of fun and made tons of friends at uw and generally i found it really lively. Each Option requires students to complete a set of specific technical elective courses, and extra courses must usually be taken in I'm going to SFU, I read that they teach more than UBC regarding mecatronics. here are my specific stats. Physics (classical mechanics) in 1A can be difficult, but it is nowhere as bad as linear algebra. It's a good base to get into any field, but may require a bit more self study to compete for software jobs. As others have said, the main difference is programming. CE, SDYE, TRON: Mid to high 90s. Mcmaster is a very solid engineering school but waterloo is better when it comes to tech and computer related eng streams cuz they have alot of connections. I feel like i'm missing out on a particular type of technology if i delve too much into one field. Their skills are definitely applicable in the real world and I wish that I actually did do mechatronics. All your other questions can’t be answered by random people on reddit because it’s all up to your grades and your AIF, and there are a lot of common answers and generic answers to your questions on the admissions post that AutoMod linked How difficult is it to get into mechatronics engineering? My average is around 93, but I expect to bring it to 95 soon. Assuming average adjustment factor, and good ECs and AIF you should aim for: SE, BME: High 90s. I'm having trouble deciding on which one to choose between mac and uw. The mechanical courses in Mechatronics are: MTE119 (statics), MTE219 ("Mechanics of Deformable Solids", so statics 2), ME321 Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Members Online To the group that keeps talking in DP after being asked to shut up Calling all mechatronics engineering students/alumni. Also, I wouldn’t recommend queens tron if you want your PEng because their program isn’t accredited yet. Received 10+ emails back from recruiters at recent career fair. Most Tron people end up doing software jobs. People with Queen's and Western engineering degrees can get good jobs as well. 93K subscribers in the uwaterloo community. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community All I have to say is good luck. True Mechatronics co-ops are not super With mechanical, you are going to have stuff like materials science, mechanics of deformable solids, thermodynamics, fluids, etc. Discussion. A community for grade 12s in Ontario to discuss things about university admissions, OSAP, OUAC/OCAS… Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Members Online Life hack: set your exam schedule as a widget, keeps you on track. better jobs as well as more work experience. In terms of how competitive the programs are to get in, tron is more difficult to get into than mech IIRC. And I'm totally fine with making connections and searching for co-op placements by myself if Windsor is not as inclined to do it as Waterloo or I have an admission average of 91. I chose mechatronics because when I was in high school, I wanted a coding based job but then I saw that mechatronics involved coding, as well as electrical and mechanical hardware. great coop, great courses, good profs, and you dont waste time learning stuff youre not interested in (for the most part). I chose tron hoping to lean more towards the software/coding side of things later on. 2B is the hardest term in terms of course load, its just non stop assignments, labs and quizes. 0. I really enjoy the program and what I'm doing. student life is the same as anywhere else i guess, it depends on you. If you literally don't care about what you do and stufy and work, tron might be better since software/tron jobs tend to pay better than mech jobs. When it's full everyone moves forward; the person at front pops out, like just a mechanical pencil!' said Glenn Weppler enthusiastically, 'AND we're burying them to insulate them. waterloo tron is pretty nice and if you want mechatronics in canada, that should 100% be your top choice. 225 bench 405 deadlift 275 squat. I worked building a prototype robot as an internship right before coming to 'loo, and then designed PCBs and enclosures at a startup Hi, I am a grade 12 student who got admitted to mechatronics engineering. 3B has a design project which can quite easily take up more time than any other Posted by u/alexogenesis - 3 votes and 3 comments I can totally say that Mechatronics grads are in demand. ago. Electrical is the easiest out of the 3 programs, I got In with a 94%. I got into UBC, and got deferred from mechatronics to nanotech (I listed nanotech as a secondary option). Mechatronics for systems eng might not be too bad. You will also take quite a few mechanical/electrical courses in the program so you may not be happy with the few software courses you take. Tron at uwo isnt prestigious like waterloo and will be much more expensive. First year I worked at McDonald’s for minimum wage and next thing I knew I was at NASA on a co-op for 150 an hour. I am perfectly happy to do Mech eng. Most graduates from this program either start startups or go to grad school. ME to MTE isn’t your typical free switch with EE <-> CE or Geo -> Enviro/Civil. I dont even know if mechatronics is good for me. Yeah like dude above said Queens is a pretty good place to go. 27 Waterloo Engineering Programs Help: Electrical vs Mechatronics vs Computer Anyone have advice on how I can decide which of these programs to apply to? Was initially planning to apply to Mechanical Engineering, however I believe these have better job prospects. Visit our Mechatronics Engineering program website. I've heard many people get jobs dealing with mainly software, but then again this is coming from secondary sources. hello waterloo 🤗 My brother applied to mechatronics this year and wanted to know his chance of getting accepted with a 93 avg and decent AIF Although getting a ft position after graduation is possible it's not easy. Mechatronics = Mechanical with Computers. Since PEY is 16 months long whereas Wloo coop is about 20 months long, would finding coops by myself prior to PEY make up for the gap? U of T has a Mechatronics specialization in mechanical engineering. Not really. Co-op is definitely plentiful and the good thing with Tron is, you can scoop anything from manufacturing engineer to software dev. MTE is a multidisciplinary program that covers a variety of topics including mechanical, electrical, software, and systems design engineering, where students begin specializing in technical topics during their 4th year of study. Failure to do so may impact your graduation. (University of Toronto, Waterloo University, McMaster, Queens and uOttawa) I understand that UofT/Waterloo are the top out of the group, but if my driving factor was being able to land a good job after my undergraduate/good internship (co-op) opportunities/good student social Waterloo installs 'nap tubes' for students without housing. Hey, to start off: I'm only asking because I'm unsure which program I would like to do more. I know Waterloo SYDE has very comprehensive documentation of what their alumni are doing post graduation. That's great because it gives a lot of options for career paths. Hoping they get accredited once the first class graduates though. P. In your co-op career, you will earn more than $60,000 so I’d say Waterloo Mechatronics over Queens. •. Hi so I am starting community college in the states (California) and I'm supposed to know what's my intended university to transfer to and I want to double major in 2 things mechatronics and business administration. Mechatronics from UoA for industrial automation competes very strongly for top position of degrees-that-aren't-aligned-with-industry. Mechatronics is actually one of the best programs. It’s also more convenient transport-wise and there’s lots of internships in the city. These fourth-year technical electives are chosen as the basis for achieving the student's ultimate career objective after graduation. I need to get away for a bit and have some fun and take some easier courses. I'm currently trying to decide between U of T and Waterloo; Engineering Science and Mechatronics. Some people from my mechatronics class went to become software developers at FAANG, some went into academia for robotics, some people did more mechanical focussed stuff at places like Tesla. Does anyone know the first year textbook list for Waterloo Mechatronics engineering? 1A: Calc 1: Calculus for Engineers, by Trim, 4e. Only 4-6 elective courses total. i'm especially I disagree. If you want a computer programming job, do computer engineering. Well, I think you already mentioned it but Waterloo is definitely the best among them. MechaTronics includes electrical, mechanical and computer engineering. My primary concern is that Waterloo can have a better coop program for students. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Well worth it. However, the program has good job opportunities/rates because of its reputation and the fact that your coop experiences determine much more of your success than the courses you take. Waterloo Mechatronics or McGill Mechanical Engineering? For context, I live in Montreal and have been accepted to both programs. Linear algebra will likely end up being a very useful course in 3rd or 4th year if you take AI and software courses and want to understand the fundamentals. • 23 min. Mech, EE: Low to mid 90s. Waterloo is the best for tron hands down. So all that’s left is Civil. So i am basically torn btw mechatronics, system design, electrical and computer engineering, does anyone in terms of difficulty how hard all these programs , the program with the best profs and which has the most demanding schedule. For a little context, in September I tried to do Carleton's Mechanical Engineering program, but due to some personal reasons I ended up having to drop out in the end of February. The due dates of the required reports depend on which stream you are in. You are actually a human being. To be short, you’re not switching. Note: If you have stream switched or are no longer in the same stream as you started, it is your responsibility to get enrolled into upcoming work reports. The only question we can answer is the question about your language courses, the language that 1A tron uses is C++. No. You're still going to go through a bunch of these in mechatronics but only with one course for each whereas mechanical students will take them throughout more courses (usually two). Many students in tron do end up doing We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. this shit is subjective. You can try to find internships during summer terms at Queens but given the current market it really isn’t easiest thing to do. MIT, TU Delft, Berkley, Columbia, etc. Do not guarantee your option. paging u/wantron_soup. Hi everyone. Queens is a nice town to go to Waterloo is a nice school to go to. Sounds like a blast. Going to McGill would allow me to live with my parents and essentially go to McGill for free through scholarships. For reference, my goal is to work in the U. Get a head start on designing the electromechanical devices of tomorrow with a Mechatronics Engineering degree from the University of Waterloo. Which one provides a wider range of job pathways? Does the pay differ significantly between the two pathways? Thanks. When I was applying, I asked for stream 8 but ended up getting stream 4, and I just found out about this so I can't even change it. Reply I've applied to both Mechatronics and Computer Science at Waterloo. Some of these reasons included having an expected workload of ~90 hrs/week (30 hrs for lectures and labs, 30 for 11K subscribers in the OntarioGrade12s community. uOttawa and Carleton engineering = bad. If you specifically want a Mechatronics degree, Univesity of Waterloo is excellent. ed mk pi cy fp kb cp bn nx fw